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Ralph Baric's Attorney's avatar

Simon Wain-Hobson recently brought up the fact that there's an order of magnitude more SAR1-like sequences than SARS2 like ones. I actually hadn't really grokked that there were hundreds of the former.

He seemed to favor the explanation that the samples and sequences might exist, but people won't publish them because of what might be inferred from that data.

I dunno. That explanation doesn't seem to fit with the table you have above.

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Tommy Cleary's avatar

Just a bioinformatic note on Yu2018

The original ORF8 experiments were loaded in 2018…

https://web.archive.org/web/20220809085043/https:/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/?term=Spread+and+Geographic+Structure+of+SARS-related+Coronaviruses+in+++++++++++++Bats+and+the+Origin+of+Human+SARS+Coronavirus

But the rest were loaded when the original paper was changed from an immune evading ORF8 based experiment on SARSr data to an evolutionary paper…the bioinformatics are very exact here 25-OCT-2019 was when this data was loaded.

The rest is propaganda…including the paper we are not allowed to read.

https://web.archive.org/web/20230308013429/https://twitter.com/EdwardCHolmes

And the self refuting denials

https://theconversation.com/how-conspiracy-theories-about-covids-origins-are-hampering-our-ability-to-prevent-the-next-pandemic-261475

This all means that CSIRO and USyd have more details to share…

https://journals.plos.org/plospathogens/article/file?id=10.1371/journal.ppat.1006698&type=printable

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