WIV, CSIRO and EcoHealth collaborated for a decade on the origin of SARS. Their touted bat virus "discoveries" appear artificial. The intent is to misattribute a deliberate release as natural.
Have you shown the mutational distribution plots to an independent expert like Bloom? He's probably broad-minded enough to at least endeavor to explain some of this.
I've tried to contact Bloom and his Washington U colleague Starr. I didn't get a response - note their lab now collaborates with WIV. But I have had some interest from scientists within NIH.
This recent joint Washington/WIV work (from David Veesler) also has potential bioweapon design/misattribution applications. I suspect WIV has cultivated them to try mute Bloom's contribution to the origins debate. He was a keynote speaker at the 2024 conference in Japan organized (but not attended) by Shi Zhengli, and has been defending their collaboration on social media.
I wrote to Tyler Starr (now at Utah apparently) and Bloom warning him to treat WIV's ACE2 sequences with caution. I'll write to Veesler and others, invite them to read this article. They can't then say they weren't warned.
Do you see a connection here between methods in persuasion?
Drosten…Bloom…there are not that many it seems that find a point of logic and follow up with an appropriate act of knowledge claim as stark even in the face of attempts to coopt and neutralise…
Why ask these questions if all that you will do is capitulate to false equivalence arguments afterwards?
Do scientists need help with the politics of dual use research of concern in the context of a democracy and an institution working within a democracy and their relationship with the opposite…a bioscience institute in a authoritarian dictatorship and the impossibility of certain critiques being even acknowledged.
I've tried to contact Baric, Menachery and others who worked on that 2015 paper to point this out and ask if they recognized, or had any suspicions of this. I've had no response. I'm used to it.
I also think RsSHC014 contributed to the design of SARS-CoV-2 - particularly the RBD. More about that in a future article.
And remember that RaTG13 and the BANAL viruses are synthetic (as in not even manufactured viruses merely in silico sequences) which is why Akiko Isikawa couldn't make them transmit.
Crameri has been one of the subjects of my FOIs along with Linfa Wang. Interestingly when I tried to FOI recent work of his, such as the work on the Thai bat SARS-2rs, they told me he had left CSIRO in 2016. Funny, because he was still using a CSIRO affiliation and mailbox as late as November 2020.
I wrote about the BANALs and RaTG13 in an earlier article:
Have you shown the mutational distribution plots to an independent expert like Bloom? He's probably broad-minded enough to at least endeavor to explain some of this.
I've tried to contact Bloom and his Washington U colleague Starr. I didn't get a response - note their lab now collaborates with WIV. But I have had some interest from scientists within NIH.
This recent joint Washington/WIV work (from David Veesler) also has potential bioweapon design/misattribution applications. I suspect WIV has cultivated them to try mute Bloom's contribution to the origins debate. He was a keynote speaker at the 2024 conference in Japan organized (but not attended) by Shi Zhengli, and has been defending their collaboration on social media.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39478224/
I also tried to contact your client, and was again ignored. Perhaps you can pass this on for me?
That’s disappointing.
Did you contact Bloom or
D Vesser
David Veesler: dveesler@uw.edu
I wrote to Tyler Starr (now at Utah apparently) and Bloom warning him to treat WIV's ACE2 sequences with caution. I'll write to Veesler and others, invite them to read this article. They can't then say they weren't warned.
Do you see a connection here between methods in persuasion?
Drosten…Bloom…there are not that many it seems that find a point of logic and follow up with an appropriate act of knowledge claim as stark even in the face of attempts to coopt and neutralise…
Why ask these questions if all that you will do is capitulate to false equivalence arguments afterwards?
Do scientists need help with the politics of dual use research of concern in the context of a democracy and an institution working within a democracy and their relationship with the opposite…a bioscience institute in a authoritarian dictatorship and the impossibility of certain critiques being even acknowledged.
very interesting, thanks!
very interesting. so Baric & co took a the RBD of SHC014 to build a chimera (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4797993), but SHC014 was actually already a lab made RBD chimera?
Yes - that's what I think.
I've tried to contact Baric, Menachery and others who worked on that 2015 paper to point this out and ask if they recognized, or had any suspicions of this. I've had no response. I'm used to it.
I also think RsSHC014 contributed to the design of SARS-CoV-2 - particularly the RBD. More about that in a future article.
Excellent article covering many points which are often disregarded. Thanks
What a great article.
You should FOI Gary Crameri who created the SV40 immortalised cell line that allowed GoF work at the CSIRO
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20011515/
And remember that RaTG13 and the BANAL viruses are synthetic (as in not even manufactured viruses merely in silico sequences) which is why Akiko Isikawa couldn't make them transmit.
They were created to cover the tracks for SC2
Thanks!
Crameri has been one of the subjects of my FOIs along with Linfa Wang. Interestingly when I tried to FOI recent work of his, such as the work on the Thai bat SARS-2rs, they told me he had left CSIRO in 2016. Funny, because he was still using a CSIRO affiliation and mailbox as late as November 2020.
I wrote about the BANALs and RaTG13 in an earlier article:
https://www.sarsisterrorism.org/p/the-batshit-evolution-of-sars-cov
And this is a follow-up about some more recent sequences from Institut Pasteur
https://www.sarsisterrorism.org/p/the-truth-lies-under-a-deep-pile